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  1. Nate Woods on April 1, 2015 at 12:29 am

    This question is in relation to your comment that gentiles do not have to keep shabbat or the feasts: How do you reconcile 1 Cor. 5 with Paul’s exhortation: “Therefore let us keep (celebrate) the feast”. What are your thoughts on the gentiles and keeping the feasts in relation to this passage?

  2. Yitshak Kugler on April 5, 2015 at 8:17 pm

    Dear Nate,
    The passage in 1Corinthians 5 depicts the Passover in a metaphorical sense and it was not Paul’s intent that Gentiles should literally keep the Passover. Passover and all the Jewish holidays are part of the covenant that God has made with the people of Israel. As such they do not apply to Gentile Christians. In Acts 15 the Apostles decided that only four commandments apply to the Gentile Christians, and these are Idolatry, fronication, meat strangled, and murder. They did not include Shabbat, or the holidays, or circumcision. In Colossians 2:16 Paul wrote to the Gentile Christians “Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink, or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day.” The peoblem is that the Church has applied this verse to Jewish believers in Yeshua, forbidding them to observe Shabbat and the holidays or keeping a kosher diet. The church has done everything to wipe out Jewish identity for Jewish believers. Today some Gentile Christians want to take on Jewish reponsibilities because they think that Christianity is lacking. They feel that they must add observance of the Torah to their faith in Jesus. This is the error of the Galatians.

    Yitshak Kugler

  3. Aritha on December 8, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    Hallo from Europe,

    Is it really true and Biblical what you say? Only the four commandments for me as Gentile Christians?

    My friends are Messianic (not Jewish), and they bombard me with their statements and I feel so small and uncomfortable. They give me texts out of Matthew 5 (verses 17-20) and they say to me: “Till heaven and earth pass, one stroke or one pronunciation mark shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.”

    My friends are celebrating all the Jewish holidays.

    I’m so happy and thankful with Jesus as Messiah, but sometimes I feel sad about this things. About so many laws and holidays: passover, sukkott. About all that chatter and judging. What must I do? I’d never celebrate them. Is the Lord asking me to do that or not?

    Can you help me with this?

    Warm greetings.

  4. Karen on December 16, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    I write as someone who has been trying to grapple with these issues for some while.

    It seems that a major question could be the definition of sin? In 1 John 3:4 it says:-
    “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. (Torah)”

    This surely applies to the gentile believer in Yeshua. Therefore if he/she breaks the law (Torah) that is sin to him/her. Sould that not encourage all gentile believers to respect the Torah and keep it where at all possible?
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    Another consideration is that scripture tells us that believing Gentiles are grafted into believing Israel:-

    “For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭11:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    Also –

    “Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.”
    ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    Surely these verses indicate that as part of believing Israel, Gentiles are no longer strangers to the covenants of Israel but, by faith, partakers of the covenants with their combined blessings and responsibilities?

    Another issue is that although we (gentile believers) say we are partakers of the New Covenant we have little to no understanding of what being in a covenant relationship means, or that the New Covenant was made with Israel and Judah not the Gentiles. .

    From my understanding of Church history, it seems the Church was very early cut off from her Hebrew/Jewish roots. As such she became like a cut flower which has been gradually dying, (apart from a few peaks during times of revival) no longer partaking of the life giving sap of the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob but rather drinking water from broken cisterns.

    The times of the Gentiles it seems are ending, if not ended already. In my opinion the Church will best survive the coming days by humbly re-identifying herself with Israel and by faith being grafted back into the olive tree.

    I don’t mean to be dogmatic but this is where my studies are taking me.

  5. Sherry Falls on March 11, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    I live in an area where there is a group trying to form a messianic congregation. I feel that they are in love with the Judaism and Judaic practices. One of the founders has gotten a DNA test to prove he has Jewish blood. One gentleman argues he is Jewish because he was grafted in- he was raised Catholic. I told them you will be viewed as frauds. Why not say that I was a Catholic/Gentile that found my way to the Jewish roots of our faith and am a Messianic believer? It is disheartening. I just want to sit down and study the Jewish roots. I do not eat pork, shellfish,etc. But I do not do it as a way to salvation. I believe in honoring the feast, but when we get into loving the celebration, wearing tzizits, etc. I think we are loving legalism. What do you think life will be like in the millennium for Jews, Gentile, Arab believers?

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